Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tasmanian Scouting.svg

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File:Tasmanian Scouting.svg

I think this is a non-free crest and should not be hosted on the Commons. User:Fry1989 has twice removed speedy deletion tags from the image, though it's not clear why, so I am nominating for deletion. Diannaa (talk) 19:41, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

 Keep It should be obvious why; I think it is too simple. The image consists of the badge of Tasmania which dates back to 1876, over a simple map of Tasmania, and a scouting fluer-de-lys. I see nothing copyrighted here. Fry1989 ^eh? 19:45, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

 Delete For the reasons Diannaa gives. In response to Fry1989, the composition can be copyrighted even when individual elements can't be. Also, the file Tasmania (Scouts Australia).png which is a photograph of a physical badge describes it as non-free. MjolnirPants (talk) 23:55, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

The problem is Diannaa has not given any reasons other than "I think this is non-free and idk why Fry would think otherwise". I have given reasons why I believe it is too simple, the elements are all certainly PD and the construction of the image is easily simple enough to have designed. There's nothing original here, nothing complicated, nothing copyrighted, there's no reason to delete it. As for the Wikipedia licensing for that file, it really doesn't mean anything of relevant value considering whoever uploaded it could have chosen from a myriad of available licenses. Fry1989 ^eh? 00:02, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

The problem is MjolnirPants, who created the image, has given reasons, so let's put that nonsense to bed.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:22, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

They didn't create the image, they only re-created the image and have no rights to it once has been released on Commons. Fry1989 ^eh? 22:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

•  Keep: I agree with Fry1989. Just simple shapes and an heraldic lion. --Amitie 10g (talk) 01:25, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
• My reason for nominating the file for deletion is that I believe it is a non-free crest that should not be hosted on the Commons. It's a unique creation, not just simple shapes, and is copyrightable in my opinion. -- Diannaa (talk) 01:16, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
•  Comment Move it to commons instead of deleting. Evrik (talk) 03:15, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
  • The file already is on Commons. --Stefan4 (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

 Delete per nom and MjolnirPants, who created the image and is requesting its deletion. Image exists at en:wp. Image components may separately be simple, but in that combination constitute a copyrighted logo.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:18, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

We do not delete images just because the uploader requests it. Once you have released an image to Commons, you have released any rights to it. The only reason to delete this is copyright and so far nobody has given any real reason to believe this is copyrighted. "I believe it is a non-free crest", what supports that claim??? Nothing so far. On the other hand, I have provided not just my opinion that this is PD but actual reasons why I believe so. Oh and as for your silly claim that MjolnirPants created the image and that means they get special rights, that's not even true because they simply re-created the image in SVG format for a graphic lab request. You want to talk about nonsense, pay attention to your own first. Fry1989 ^eh? 03:29, 10 January 2015 (UTC)

• I would guess that this picture is fine per COM:COA#Public domain definition (blazon). The picture seems to contain four elements:
  1. Three circles: two white and one green.
  2. A map. Seems to have been drawn differently compared to w:File:Tasmania (Scouts Australia).png.
  3. A fleur-de-lys. I can't tell if it has been drawn differently compared to w:File:Tasmania (Scouts Australia).png or not as the one in the PNG file is of too low quality.
  4. A lion, clearly drawn differently. A Google search for "lion passant" finds plenty of similar pictures of lions. --Stefan4 (talk) 01:35, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

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Kept: as per Stefan4. Natuur12 (talk) 19:31, 13 February 2015 (UTC)